show, more than welcome to do that. now, when it comes to the current dance in your crane, i think that western party line, or the predominant western narrative, is that, 1st of all, is this aggression and i have to admit that the military operation is a form of aggression. there is no way around that, but these events, 1st of all, are totally unprovoked. and secondly, that they are warranted that they re absolutely no strategic or geopolitical antecedents, rushes actions. i wonder if you ve got a course to your understanding of what is happening in your grade. no, it doesn t mean if i go back far enough, i wrote a paper way back in the early 2. thousands like not is not is not is i think call the the russian to the vehicle on the course that. ok. and in that, i went through the history of how the cicily, american aqona had advised, the american government and the soviet, the russian government, a soviet union collapsed with the best way to transit from socialism to capitalis
american government, and this is actually speaking from a conversation with jeffrey sachs, he said that he, when he got inside the state department because of his economic role. and he was talking about that transition. they realized that the side of the state problem wanted to use it to destroy russia. they were still is not in century attitude for a few years because a, you know, one could argue that this was an unprecedented transition and nobody knows. well, i had what s going to happen. i mean, when you sort of transform a country of russia size and build up, you know, mistakes inevitable. but i remember that all the way until i think early thousands russians have and i m big use leave positive regard for the americans. i mean, i remember as a girl in the hill letting grad and dreaming about going to the united states as some sort of magical learned. and that attitude was changed not only by the ordinary folks, but also by the lead. why do you think there, there was such
also of course, a reaction. so a was no, a surprise to me at all that you had a strong manage out of that. the fossil gilson, which was a drunkard who was supported by the west of the absurdity of trying to go 1st of all and $500.00 than a $150.00 and really effectively also me and one day a transition from the socialist economy to a market economy was truly absurd, and the american economists philosophy responsible that including jeffrey sachs, when i say, improve his turn dramatically since then. finally admitted his era. but the american government, and this is actually speaking from a conversation with jeffrey sachs, he said that he, when he got inside the state department because of his economic role. and he was talking about that transition. he realized that the side of the states and wanted to use it to destroy russia. they were still is not and century attitude a few years. because a, you know, once it argued that this wasn t unprecedented, should transition and nobod
anything positive coming out of it. what is this dark cloud, or rather a major geopolitical storm, also had a silver lining up to discuss that i m now joined by skiwski and, and it s traveling economist and on their research problem at the university college london. professor kim is great to talk to you. it s a fairly rare treat for me these days to speak to western thinkers. so i m particularly appreciative of that. thank you. one glad to be invited and particularly knowing this will be on it. so anybody who sees the subsequently with your western orientation, there s been no doctrine whatsoever. there s come to, sorry. i have to say that to me, promise about all over. if any of the western speakers want to come in on the show about more than welcome to do that. now, when it comes to the current events in your crane, i think your western party line or the predominant western narrative, is that for 1st of all, at this aggression and i have to admit that the military operation
economist and on there a research fellow at the university college london. professor kim is great to talk to you. it s a fairly rare treat for me these days to speak to western thinkers. so i m particularly appreciative of bad. thank you. one glad to be invited and particularly knowing this will be on it. so anybody who sees this subsequently with your western orientation, there s been no doctrine whatsoever. this conversation, i have to say that to be promised to all over if any of the western speakers want to come in on the show about more than welcome to do that. now, when it comes to the current events in your crane, i think that western party line, or the predominant western narrative, is that 1st of all, at this aggression and i have to admit that the military operation is a form of aggression. there is no way around it, but then these events, 1st of all, are totally unprovoked. and secondly, that they are warranted. they re absolutely no strategic or geo political ante