your nerves? at times it did. but he always dismissed it as, i want to get to know you. lynn loves you. i want to love you like lynn does. i want to know who this, you know, crazy woman is she loves. but when harold wouldn t let lynn go to kim s wedding, even after kim offered to help pay for the trip, kim felt like she d really lost her best friend. she called me and said, i can t come. and i said why? can you tell me why? and she said, i need to honor my husband. and that s all she would say. kim thought lynn was okay doing what harold said because she believed that was her role as the perfect christian wife. there was some auto the fact that she really did honor her husband. she would never speak negative about him. so i always looked at her and thought, man, maybe she s the better woman. as the years went on, lynn
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and we were never allowed to be alone even if we were together. and he would even make comments when we would go to the bathroom, you know, you girls hurry up in there. you know. he would always make those, you know, like joking comments. reporter: that s got to start to get on your nerves? at times it did. but he always dismissed it as, i want to get to know you. lynn loves you. i want to love you like lynn does. i want to know who this, you know, crazy woman that she loves. reporter: but when harold wouldn t let lynn go to kim s wedding, even after kim offered to help pay for the trip, kim felt like she d really lost her best friend. she called me and said, i can t come. and i said why? can you tell me why. and she said, i need to honor my husband. and that s all she would say. reporter: kim thought lynn was okay doing what harold said, because she believed that was her role as the perfect christian wife. there was some awe to the fact that she really did honor her husban
in douglas county, the detectives went down the list of who might know anything about lynn s case. they talked to patricia. they talked to rockies been, and they wanted to talk to harold. when he wouldn t agree, they turned to someone he would talk to his old friend kim laferriere, and asked her and her husband to secretly record a conversation with him. we said no at the time because we felt like he was innocent. reporter: after all, kim and harold had been close friends for years. we prayed about it. and we asked our pastor. and he said, if he is innocent, then you ll be able to reveal that. and so then we agreed to do it. reporter: now she and her husband were meeting harold for a meal near her home in virginia, but first getting wired up by police. the cops were hoping to use harold s words against him. kim still hoping to exonerate him. were you a little scared?
we would like to be able to go to a grave somewhere and see her. i mean, first family said the same thing. you know, devastated. never heard that, you know, she wanted to be cremated. i mean, as soon as he got that body released, boom, cremated. reporter: and the bertolets added, if that wasn t enough, he then took those ashes and put them where he wanted them. toni s ashes are spread on the same mountain that he spread the first wife s ashes. same spot. did the exact same thing. and he always claims that it s their favorite spot. i mean, we re talking he did the exact same things from start to finish with both wives. crazy. i mean, even the same photo pose. reporter: the families thought what harold did with his wives remains was insensitive. but the cops, federal and local, were looking for something else. evidence of murder.
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