right at the start because i didn t know anything about it, i was thinking, okay, this is going to be hard to prove. no witnesses, no evidence at that point. so what do you have? but there was all that life insurance. there were the cell phone pings that seemed to show harold scouting out toni s last hike. the prosecution even showed the jury a map found in harold s car with an x marking the spot where toni fell. and there were all those versions of what harold said happened on that mountain. this was a case in which the evidence was not so much the physical evidence. the evidence were the lies. and it was lie after lie after lie after lie. the defense said none of the so-called evidence added up to murder. they said the pings on harold s phone didn t show trips to the park, but rather him taking a back route to his weekend cabin. and, as for the life insurance, toni knew all about it.
push toni off the cliff. juror john johnson was skeptical. right at the start because i didn t know anything about it, i was thinking, okay, this is going to be hard to prove. no witnesses, no evidence at that point. so what do you have? reporter: but there was all that life insurance. there were the cell phone pings that seemed to show harold scouting out toni s last hike. the prosecution even showed the jury a map found in harold s car with an x marking the spot where toni fell. and there were all those versions of what harold said happened on that mountain. this was a case in which the evidence was not so much the physical evidence. the evidence were the lies. and it was lie after lie after lie after lie. reporter: the defense said none of the so-called evidence
no physical evidence, no fingerprints or dna. and no witnesses who saw harold push toni off the cliff. juror john johnson was skeptical. right at the start because i didn t know anything about it, i was thinking, okay, this is going to be hard to prove. no witnesses, no evidence at that point so what do you have? reporter: but there was all that life insurance. there were the cell phone pings that seemed to show harold scouting out toni s last hike. the prosecution even showed the jury a map found in harold s car with an x marking the spot where toni fell. and there were all those versions of what harold said happened on that mountain. this was a case in which the evidence was not so much the physical evidence. the evidence were the lies and it was lie after lie after lie after lie. reporter: the defense said none of the so-called evidence added up to murder