Background. Sometimes it was as a senior background. Sometimes it was as a senior member of the collective leadership of medical Profession And Health care medical Profession And Health care more widely. So those other care more widely. So those other two kind of environments. I other two kind of environments. Hust other two kind of environments. Iiust warit other two kind of environments. Ijust want to be clear by the i just want to be clear by the remit of your role as a cmo. It may be at times we trespassed into matters that you provided advice from or in the room where decisions were being made but please make it clear s you are unable to answer any question or it is outwith your spirit or expertise. Can i start with this. In module two, you explain that when the reasons for the lockdown in March 2020 was to prevent The Nhs from being overwhelmed. Can i ask, was overwhelmed ever defined by those that were making that decision . Flat making that decision . Not really and making that