that their size is actually an asset. these look great. you ve got john s, macs, sort of the goldens. greg hall of benville, michigan, is very picky about which apples go into his hard seider. this morning he and peter clyne, the owner of nearby seedling orchard of testing. you can see how they cluster. and tasting. as a seider maker, we re looking for aroma and flavor, acid and tannin from the apple. as an independent brewer greg is part of a small but rapidly growing beverage category, hard site ter, where his virtue cider label has been thriving. three years ago nobody knew where it was. now it s all over tv, all over the supermarkets. no surprise, all this rapid growth has not gone unnoticed by big players in the beer category. greg s now getting stiff competition from big beer brands