with nato officials in brussels. wow. can we do one little bit of color, because i know joe likes it. as long as it doesn t involve urine. your last bit was too colorful for us. it could. picks up his own dry cleaning at the pentagon. i ve got two sources on that. i ve got one source saying he picks up his own subway sandwich. one source we can t definitively say secretary mattis goes to subway. i asked, does he get the skinny or not. i need better sources. get back to work. work on that. hans nichols, thank you very much. carol lee, thank you as well. coming up, ari fleischer has answered for a president in the past. so where does he stand on the current commander in chief? he joins the table along with former governor and dnc chair howard dean. get along, guys. morning joe is back in a moment. what powers the digital world. communication.
into the arena. she had no idea he was going to be here or even he was home. hot spot seen him in a long time. nice moment there. that s great. back with pentagon correspondent. come up with a fitting name. we ll have that. hans will join us. he ll have some he ll add color. add some texture for us.
joining me nbc correspondent hans nichol. he said intelligence tells him that torture works. you talk to these agents all the time. they re the ones who have seen it. they re the ones they ve been there, they know what they re talking about. do they think that it works? i can tell you that general madis, and secretary of defense mattis who told trump that torture works. number one, there will be no change on torture from the department of defense. number two, mattis position on torture has not changed and that s two-fold, one, torture does not work. it s not an intelligent way of extracting information. and number two, it s still illegal. on a practical level, it s not going to change anything. it s also, katie, not going to
you will hear from donald trump that it matters. craig? chris jansing in baton rouge. the president-elect expected to take the stage there later this hour. perhaps next hour as well. we are told he got a little bit of a late takeoff. i want to bring in hans nichols now, hans is on duty for us at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. a little bit of a developing story there. president obama just 40 days or so left in office has decided to order this review, if you will. a lot of folks are claiming scratch that. some 17 agencies claiming there was hacking that went on before the election. president obama ordering a review. what more can you tell us? reporter: the review will attempt to shed clarity and take away doubt that some have been claiming, namely donald trump, the president-elect, that russia didn t have anything to do with the interference in
handled by the next administration. or has already happened. right? remember the joe biden interview he had with chuck todd on meet the press. when he was asked would we find out, or would the american people find out if there was a cyber response to russia for the alleged infiltration, alleged hacking and joe biden said, i hope not. there is always a possibility there s been a hit-back, a counterpunch and we won t know. whether or not donald trump takes the same vow of silence is a question we ll ask when he moves in here later next month. craig? hans, thank you. kristen welker. president-elect donald trump with his pick to head the national economic council today. what do we know about gary cohn? reporter: a couple of things. he s served as part of the securities division for 25 years. he s on the board of directors