People, locals say that the plane exploded in the air. So it was kind of it fell down in is pieces. They said so bits of the plane, bits of the bodies, bits of peoples possessions. Its going to be a nearly impossible to establish with any certainty what happened here. There is a few sort of engine rotors, big pieces that are still intact. But for the most part, everything is burnt up and charred and scattered over a few kilometers. I mean, its hard to say with certainty, but maybe five kilometers. Its a pretty wide radius. And the debris starts kind of up the road there is a tail fin. And you come a little further down and you see the place where the Emergency Services crews have set up a base of sorts. Some firefighters, some rescue teams. And theyre kind of in the center of where most of it landed. There is a white tent out in the field where theyre collecting bodies. So it is early on, and there is a lot we dont know. But here is what we do know about the tragedy right now. The Unit
no. i think, you know, if you get the cockpit voice recorder, you may end up catching conversation among the crew. this has happened before in airplanes that were shot down where it s clear the pilots are talking to each other about damage to the airplane. they know what has happened. and that would help make this clearer. we will get the recorder? well, in this situation there is no reason why we shouldn t. yes, it s a very violent fire that has taken place and a very violent crash. but this thing is designed as we talked many times. the reason i asked you, there are going to be many members of the international community wanting to get in on this investigation. the question is will they be allowed to get in? there is a precedent. the precedent is when the soviets shot down korean airlines and said they recovered nothing. the father of a young college student was on that airplane, hans ephraimson went to moscow and brought back the black boxes. and that cvr, that cockpit voice