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weapons. we re being shot at a lot now in the middle east, general. what can your understanding of the cold war, what can your experience teach us about dealing with extremists in the middle east. dealing with the challenges that we re facingty very moment? not much. maybe patience because the cold war lasted 40-plus years and this is going to last at least that long or longer, but the soviets have a lot to lose so they can be deterred. these guys don t have much to lose, no territory to defend, no assets that are worth anything, maybe not even a life you know, worth living. they can t be deterred. they ll have to be defeated and that s a lot harder. alisyn: well, general, thanks so much. it s hangar flying.