The division bell, also twice a week during the election. Subscribe and leave a review. And Ben Riley Smith from the telegraph. Who does not have his own podcast, but i do occasionally appear on the telegraph on that, i uh, camilla and kamal do. Which is called the daily t. Yes. You got to get the name of your podcast. I definitely remember that. Thats the basic thing. I definitely remembered it. Um, right. Um, the last episode of newscast was me, chris and laura in the incredibly hot spin room in nottingham after the bbc one prime ministerial debate. Um, now that youve had a chance to sleep on that moment of momentous television, um, what do you think . Well, i thought it was sunak unleashed. You know, he found his mojo only five weeks too late, possibly more than a year too late. And, you know, ive spoken to so many tories who think, why couldnt he have brought that passion, that energy to the campaign trail before now . Um, starmer a lot more cautious, as expected. For me, one thing