this stuff? bill: let me give joe the last word. when measuring temperatures since satellite era began in the late 1970s at the end of the last what we call the cold pdo. what i want to show you here real quick. bill: let him finish. pacific os legs. if we take a look at this right back here, we see that during the 1970s here and you can see the time magazine from late 1970s we were in a cold pdo. we have been warming it up. we are now turning colder. the fact of the matter is that if i am right, and this is the greatest debate, bill nye, the greatest lab experiment ever, if i m right, the reversals will lead to a degree to a degree and a half cooling. if you are right, they are not. what are we worried about right now? what we have to look at is 20 or 30 years. bill: i m going to a break. i m making an appeal to the deity to come on this program to once and foreall tell us what he is coming on. that was fascinating. i would flunk courses in both of