direct conversations they had or that the vice president had with the then president, that s i mean, that could be pretty i mean, there could be a lot of valuable information in stuff that they re not talking about. there can be. just let me do a little hair splitting on executive privilege. there are two facets of it. there are direct communications with the president, and there are also what they call deliberative conversations that don t necessarily involve direct information to and from the president. if they in the area of deliberative discussions, they could reveal virtually everything that the committee wanted to know about what the president was saying without necessarily revealing the president s conversations. that sounds like what s going on here to me. so, wait, i m not a lawyer, so how do you do that? how do you have a talk about a deliberative conversation and reveal what somebody said to you
gigantic nuclear arsenal and he will threaten to use it and the possibility that he could use a tactical small nuke on the battlefield is real. we should acknowledge that. that s reality. but what the administration is doing is constantly self-deterring by having meeting after meeting after meeting to say well, if we did, this maybe this literally hair splitting thing is the thing that would really make putin mad and then he would do something like, what bomb a maternity hospital and kill babies and moms in the process of delivery? putin is evil and the administration is constantly wrong about who he is and what motivates him and they act like lots of lawyerly distinctions is what he is paying attention to. that s not the right line. bret: you appreciate the side that is worried about world war iii. you appreciate the side after hearing what you hear on the intel committee about putin doubling down the cia director about he is not leaving any time soon, and what does that mean for us
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graphics and banners that you see on the bottom of your tv. when we first started calling it that, and we made a choice to do so. when we first started after january 6th, it sounded provocative, i think. coup is not a term you throw around lightly when you re talking about the united states of america. by definition, a coup is a sudden, illegal, often violent seizure of power from a government, and it s something that happens all around the world in other countries. some examples, places like chile in 1973 or bolivia in 1971, it s happened in turkey, pakistan and on and on and on. but the way that we think about a coup is that it doesn t happen here. not here in what is supposed to be the beacon of democracy throughout the world. and there was some initial debate about what exactly a coup is. does it need to involve the military and wasn t this technically an auto coup because trump was trying to cement his existing control and stay in power. but all the semantic hair
be the beacon of democracy throughout the world. and there was some initial debate among political scientists about what exactly a coup is. does it need to involve the military and wasn t this technically an autocoup because trump was trying to cement his existing control and stay in power? but all the semantic hair splitting sort of avoids the fact that we don t have a better word. there s no better way to describe what happened. donald trump and his allies did everything they possibly could, tried every possible avenue to overthrow a democratic election and install an authoritarian ruler in defiance of the people s will. and there is no real precedent for it in american history. i mean even fort sumpter, a violent secession that began the