this is ruining everything we worked for. this is why investigating these situations is so complicated. we understand this is more than just the insurrection on january 6th. this is the big lie. it s the entirety of the conduct that starts before the election and continues through the election with trump trying more and more hair brain schemes to maintain the lead and ultimately resorting to the violence on january 6th. trump junior is part of that trajectory of conduct. when you look at it in context and put it together, which is what investigators would do, it makes it more difficult to point to any one specific text and say, look, i tried to get him to stop when you have a course of conduct leading up to that. weigh in on this new op-ed that katie fang wrote talking
troops, that s what you can do. but you can t give money to the troops to do something that doesn t have anything to do with them. and i think this is just another one of his hair brain schemes and we know time after time his cruel, unnecessary, horrifying policies on the border, whether it s separation of children from the parents or whether it s stopping people from coming in under the asylum laws or whether it s his initial total ban on muslim immigration, all of those were shut down by the courts. and so i think the reason he s doing this now in this way is he s very worried about whether he has authority. he s trying to threaten congress. it not going to work. the democrats are not going to support a wall. and what i find horrifying, it s given part of his cruelty as part of doing anything to improve his image and to deal with the problems of immigration is that he s holding 800,000 workers and their families
trying to get things done sooner rather than later. the closer you get to that date, the more jittery the markets get and the higher the probability for higher interest rates. certainly if you go beyond that date, you really risk economic catastrophe catastrophe, as ben bernanke, the chairman of the federal reserve has said. well, but here s my point. i goods it s political. the republicans seem to be so upset at the prospect of raising revenues in any way to balance this budget problem, they re willing to go to the point of costing this billions and billions of dollars in higher interest costs to manage the debt, to service the debt. am i right about that? that s exactly right. they are playing russian roulette with the fully loaded revolver because the consequences are exactly as we say. now, you hear some of these hair brain schemes, chris, that say don t worry, we will pay our bondholders first. pay china and other foreign governments who hold treasury
i goods it s political. the republicans seem to be so upset at the prospect of raising revenues in any way to balance this budget problem, they re willing to go to the point of costing this billions and billions of dollars in higher interest costs to manage the debt, to service the debt. am i right about that? that s exactly right. they are playing russian roulette with the fully loaded revolver because the consequences are exactly as we say. now, you hear some of these hair brain schemes, chris, that say don t worry, we will pay our bondholders first. pay china and other foreign governments who hold treasury bonds, we won t pay our troops, we won t pay social çsecurity, and therefore the markets will be calm because the bondholders will be being paid. well, first of all, wrong priority. we shouldn t be paying china and not paying our troops. number two, any time the u.s. government is not making good on its obligations, even whether to our troop or social security or