idiothe. notice in the papers that came out today, people very close to trump, not named directly, but we know who some of them are, they may turn out to be distanced from donald. it s perfectly possible we will see donald throw, for instance, don junior under the bus if it becomes convenient or significant for him to do so. you know, david, the way you talk, i m serious about this, i was an altar boy at our mental institution when i was a kid, i d go in there with the 7,000 inmates. one was a trustee. he would meet me and he s the guy who brought the movies in. oldtime big movies. he would bring them in. during the conversation he went from the guy who brought the movies in and hollywood producer. he kept going, his delusion of ability that s donald. that s what i thought you were talking about, the guy that brought the movies in to a mental institution. thank you, david, for humor there, i hope. thank you, gwenda blair. people who worked with trump on his own view of himself.
wouldn t have won. in which case, i would have gone back into the business. and why should i loose lse lots opportunities? even if he was right, it doesn t matter because i was allowed to do whatever i wanted during the campaign. but you denied it all, mr. president, you denied it time and time again. anyway, trump began his day today tweeting wild accusations against special counsel robert mueller. charging him with leading an illegal joseph mccarthy-style witch hunt. it s a technique he s employed over the last two years waging an aggressive personal campaign against not just robert mueller and michael cohen, but also his own government. lashing out against findings that russia was responsible for hacking our democracy. so what if what is he afraid of? why does he keep lying? for measuore i m joined by two people who know trump well, david k. johnson, founder of d.c.report.org and author of making of donald trump. and glenda blair, author of trump s three generations of
will attempt to add to must pass legislation, in this case the spending bill, legislation that would prevent mr. whitaker from interfering with the mueller investigation. for more on all this, let s bring in former u.s. attorney, msnbc contributor joyce vance, former fbi assistant director frank and an adjunct professor gwenda blair. a lot of people might be watching thinking what are some of the ways in which matthew whitaker could interfere with mueller s investigation? and do you expect him to or would he even try to? there s the explicit stuff. what is the stuff that i think experts might be watching for in terms of what whitacre could do? so the first thing we should do is look at his public statements. if the man s telling us what he might do, let s listen to him.
even be prosecuted? how provable is this? here s the linchpin of this issue. for a campaign finance violation to be criminal, you have to be able to prove as a prosecutor that your defendants took action intending to violeate campaign finance law. that was the issue in the john edwards case. he was trying to concealed the issue of his mistress from his wife. this new reporting tends to suggest both that trump did this with an effort to violate campaign finance law and he knew that the folks at american media, that david pecker and his corporate allies were corned about corporate finance issues. if that sort of knowledge existed in the president s mind and prosecutors can prove it, then we look at criminal liability here. this is very significant. very significant indeed. joyce vance, frank, gwenda blair, thank you for joining us. breaking news out of california as wildfires are raging out of california in the
security measures, that it led other people to take those steps at that level. donald trump would insult us and that had ripple effects to his audience. they would throw things at us, follow us, and so this is really serious business. gwenda blair and liz, thank you for your stories. we have dr. j and d dj skribble. look at rob reiner and anthony scaramucci. now we re getting along, but on the air he s going to hit me terribl terribly. rob, this is not planned, but can you say something nice about the mucc before we get started?