i ve interviewed mothers after so many of these awful police incidents, and i just wonder how many more times does this have to happen before something is done, that we sit on television and we do these interviews with the mothers who are in grief, mothers who have been in grief from years ago, you know, from past incidents. and i just wonder how often we have to do this, because as poppy said, it s re-traumatizing for the country, but even more so, especially for the parents and the loved ones of these young men. gwen, i ll let you speak first. yes, this has to stop. it seems like they make a mockery and it keeps on happening. and that s why we stand with the mothers who are traumatized because of these unfortunate incidents. but, you know, we have to keep on fighting. we have to get laws changed. we have to get rid of bad