pest summit in 2008. that spurred action against georgia first hybrid war in the summer of 2008 and against ukraine in 2014 attack. that wasn t enough for ukraine because just earlier this month, nato general secretary staltsenberg was talking about russia not having a veto over ukraine s foreign policy including nato membership. putin wants one gvment begive him that, then we will have done incredible harm to ukraine s democracy, and that s what putin wants. brian: this week key will continue to talk. you also said something interesting in that vladimir putin put 100 plus thousand troops on the border. you said pull them back because it will make him look bad. how far does he save face and how do we get him them not to invade? what s the speed spot there? that s the concern. he has created a false sense of urgency with highly public hard to step back from all of that. honestly, this is reminiscent to