national candidates running for president is going to be willing to stand up and say, you know, i think this guy walker went too far in wisconsin. i think kasich is reaching too far. i m going to distance myself and go more moderate. i don t think the republicans are going to do that. i don t either, ed. i think you re kind to, you know, say that it s great they re relentless. i think they re cruel. i think they re cruel, mean-spirited. they don t really care about people. they don t talk jobs, they don t talk about recovery. and they re bashing people at a time when this country desperately needs a sense of a fair deal for people. listen, we came out of a recession caused by wall street and they re in hawk to wall street. i don t see a republican governor standing up. maybe scott brown, but he s not going to be running. what i see is a 30-year national strategy on the part of this party, well funded to destroy the rights of working people and to destroy labor and to destroy middle c
benefits, would be willing to contribute more to their pensions, be able to make actual financial concessions if governor walker would essentially stop trying to break up the unions. if he would stop trying to take away collective bargaining rights. the governor rejected those terms. does that mean there s no room to negotiate at all? well, it means this isn t about the money for the governor, this is all about busting the union. that s all it has ever been for governor walker. the employees say the money isn t the issue. the money isn t the issue. the governor will get his money, will be able to balance the budget, the budget deficit, but at the same time this the union movement, and a lot of us in wisconsin don t want labor to have to give up the right to collectively bargain. the governor is dead set against that. just the fact that governor walker said i don t care about the money, i am not giving this up, what he is not giving up is his ability to bust every single public unio
most direct incentive you can possible imagine to use public policy to destroy unions. 36% of public employees are unionized? oh, no, that cannot stand. where the public unions all together, get rid of them. personally, i can t see this guy walker, yes. you would like to get rid of the unions. you don t believe in collective bargaining for employees, period? no, i don t think public employees need collective bargaining, that s correct. that s correct. public employees should not be in unions, says the republican state senator from wisconsin. democrats do not tend to think like this. but republicans influenced by conservative movement, they are pretty good at taking the long view, about using public policy for partisan purposes. this is one thing they actually do like government for. using public policy to dismantle the institutions that make it possible for democrats to win