instead indicts 13 people. martha: looking back at the mueller investigation, what i find interesting here, the former attorney general, bill barr wanted to make sure that there was a door left open to this investigation after the mueller probe. he felt that they had not gotten to the bottom of whats going on here and wanted to keep that door open with john durham who is continuing to find things. michael sussmann s indictment came down, he said this is the tip of the iceberg. he needs sussmann that says i m not working for hillary clinton. when he takes this to the fbi and a second agency that we now know, why would you do that? he would do that on his own. who is that? obviously it s the clinton campaign and hillary. i don t know if it s hillary exactly but it s her campaign. but this guy sussmann out of the
you know today s event reminds us, jesse, why it is dangerous for the united states, they are more concerned about polls and politics. that s why they brought out barack obama today. than they are about the american people and america s interest. jesse: kamala lost her 12th staff member today. it s a baker s dozen for the vice president. we will keep reporting on. that was monica crowley, thank you so much. thanks, jesse. jesse: special counsel john durham is accusing hillary clinton s lawyer of lying. releasing the smoking gun text message. this guy sussmann sent to the fbi in 2016. kevin corke is in d.c. with those details. kevin? yeah, very interesting. this all dates back to september of 2016. you may remember, jesse, it was at that point that michael sussmann allegedly sent a text to the then general counsel of the fbi james baker. and durham has released that text and in it he says basically