on his own, because i think they so a guy being dragged and at some point he put some weight on his left leg but he s still being held up and it s not exactly clear what happened rs at the bumper of the vehicle. i believe it s his refusal to walk based on the fact that when he is stood up on the bumper he s clearly standing and turning and yelling. isn t it the most plausible explanation that that injury occurred before beingplassed in the van? you say plausible but we have seen the videotape. the only force you see is him limited to holding the legs down while they re waiting for the transport van. how does someone get three
seeing that video see a guy being dragged and at one point he put some weight on his left foot left leg but still being held up and it is not exactly clear what happens on the bumper of the vehicle? whether he is dragged due to his inability or refusal to walk, i believe it is his refusal to walk based on the fact when he stood up on the bumper he is clearly standing and turning back and yelling. isn t though the most logical explanation that that injure occurred prior to him being placed in the van. you said that is the most logical but we don t know that. no evidence has come forward. you ve seen the video tape and i ve seen the video tape and the police officers based on the video are not using excessive force. the only force you see is them limited to holding his legs down while waiting for the transport van. how does someone get three crushed vertebrae in the back of a van? i think that is a question
party on the fringes of our party is not right, and we have to do we have to speak out about this. i went back because i remembered a new york times story from february of 2010, and it was so frightening to me because it talked about how there s a loose alliance of protesters from the far right fringe who were glomming onto the tea party, the legitimate folks who had concerns about the deficit and the economic direction of the country, they were glomming onto the party. and what was interesting and what s quite ironic right now is that in the lead paragraph of that piece i said that i urged republican national party chairman michael steele and other republicans to start speaking out against these people before they lose control of their party. here we are four years later, and we re talking about a guy who is an outlaw who is breaking federal law who is a hero to a lot of people within now the base of the republican party who
and why do conservatives in turn seem so willing to make them into folk hero, whether it s bundy or ted nugent or even the rodeo clown with the obama mask before them, these people seem to find a comfortable home on the political right, at least until they go one step too far. michael steele and jonathan capehart both are msnbc contributors. michael, i ll tart with you. i guess the question of this whole saga raises for me is the republican party, the conservative movement is what does it say to you that so many prominent conservatives. sean hannity, look at the audience he commands, rand paul, we re talking about big names here. what does it say to you that they looked at this guy, a guy being backed by a militia that had people talking about using women as human shields, a guy who wouldn t recognize the existence of the federal government. what does it say to you that they are able to look at him and it doesn t even register to them that hey, there might be cooky ideas that are going
write a letter demanding a state investigation of the blm s actions here as a way to get into this issue of transferring the federal land to the state land, never asking some key questions such as really, can the state really take care of that land any better than the feds? and does anyone think that cliven bundy who got away with not paying his bills for 20 years that the federal government would have paid the state government? so, yeah, there s still that out there. some of the prominent folks and sean hannity got out his pejorative words and his thesaurus and started spewing all of that. but they still sympathize with this guy. no question about it. thank you, up next do you remember the republican presidential candidate who was a pizza king? contestants on jeopardy didn t. the side show is next. never been a better time to buy a jetta tdi clean diesel.