4:00 in new york. today, monumental breakthrough in the sometimes frustrating pursuit and pace of accountability and justice. the aftermath of the deadly attack on the u.s. capitol. in the 785 days since the insurrection he incited, donald trump has managed to squirm his way through an impeachment, wiggle past the bipartisan congressional investigation, stretching presidential immunity to great effect so far. now the justice department says in a brand-new court filing, such immunity should not shield donald trump from multiple civil suits brought by police officers and members of congress. in that new filing, in the course of urging an appeals court to reject trump s immunity claim, the justice department was very careful to avoid taking a position on whether trump is actually liable for causing the riot. the new action does open new doors of potential accountability for him. doj s essentially telling the court it does not believe trump can use immunity to avoid civil litigat
and knowing you re going to do. thank you, great to have you on the program. good luck going forward. i know you have a lot of work ahead. the one-two gut punches of natural disaster, what we re seeing california, and president biden heads to hawaii, as well as the administration as a whole has come under heavy criticism. after the president addressed the wildfires back on august 10th, it was another five days before he ever mentioned them again, despite being asked about the fires there s twice while vacationing in delaware. he refused to comment both times. on the ground in hawaii, frustration over what s been described as a painstakingly slow response and recovery has evolved into anger at the situation, the system and even the president himself. for us we don t need you. don t come here because when you come here, they shut down the
the higher education act. the supreme court delivered two separate gut punches to the american public this week and it s not something you easily recover from. which two are you referring to? both the affirmative action ruling and repealing or taking away his right to forgive a portion of debt for 40 million plus americans across the country who are still trying to recover from the effects of the pandemic. so let s start there. let s talk about the student debt right now, because president biden, when he announced that he wanted to do this student loan relief, even some high-profile democrats like nancy pelosi suggested that he did not have the power to do it. so was it a mistake doing it through the h.e.r.o.e.s act the way he did it? i don t think it was a mistake. when the country is struggling as bad as it was and continues to you have to do everything you can. this is not a normal supreme court. this is a very unusual supreme
but i just want to be really clear, the supreme court delivered two separate gut punches to the american public this week. it is not something you easily recover from. which two are you referring to? both the affirmative action ruling and repealing or taking away his right to forgive a portion of debt for 40 million-plus americans across the country who are still trying to recover from the effects of the pandemic. so let s start there. let s talk about the student debt right now because president biden, when he announced that he wanted to do this student loan relief, even some high-profile democrats like nancy pelosi suggested that he did not have the power to do it. so was it a mistake doing it through the heroes act the way he did it? i don t think it was a mistake with the country struggling as bad as it was and continues to, you have to do everything you can. this is not a normal supreme court as you well know.
pursue every possible avenue, and it is just heartbreaking, to be very clear, the supreme court delivered two gut punches to the american people this week, by not allowing that debt for over 40 million people to be reduced, and also what they did with affirmative action. so president biden had no choice, he s got to look at every possible path, every everybody to provide that debt relief. what happens to the american public this week, there s no upside there. everybody loses. i want to talk about affirmative action in just a moment. but one more here on cancellation of student debt. there was some democrats who told the president upfront that if you wanted to do this, to use the higher education act of 1965, and do not go through the heroes act, of course, we all know that former speaker pelosi said that she didn t believe the president had this authority through the heroes act. do you think it was a mistake to use the heroes act to try to forgive the $400 billion worth of student lo