cavanaugh said that earlier. that s over 90 people in total. two guns ak-47s, 30-round magazines, etch. they managed to get out of 60 shots, reload and at least 30 more, if not more in that venue, which is it s not a significant amount, but for terrorists coming in, that s the shock value that they said. they come in and just blast the place. and of course it remains to be seen whether they ll still on venue or killed by local law enforcement. good points made, and to both you and jim on this, the bat aclan, when we were there early on on the ground, the details coming in to ugh was that it was tough because of the music