and joe is case in point, a man who carried the gun you, backing inside the walgreens and walked by the congress on the corner event and walked into walgreens, buying cigarettes and heard the gun shots and he said it was a distinctive pop, pop, pop! and what he did next was took the safety off of his gun, and, ran out, he was one of the men who tackled jared loughner. listen: i put my legs behind his knees and, my arm went to the small of his back and another guy was stepping on his neck and people had his neck. he wasn t moving. we need to react as americans and need to not be afraid. reporter: remember the story, jared loughner went through an entire magazine, 31 shots and tried to reload and when he tried to reload, that is when 61-year-old patricia maisch jumped into action. she tried to reach for the gun and couldn t reach it and she went after the magazine, listen: