get something done in washington, they should stop demagoguing and claiming we re evil if we disagree how to preserve the lives of people like the kids at sandy hook. megyn: i think about that one family, that s the little cristina greene killed in the same shooting massacre that led to gabby giffords being shot, and her father came on this broadcast shortly thereafter, right after, and he is not a big gun control guy, but his wife is. so, it s in the same family, suffering the same tragedy, obviously, concerned about the lives of children, but they just had legitimate disagreements on the issues and where to go with it. even this, this gentleman, the reverend geri hall, he also acknowledges even clergy is divided on this issue and yet, wouldn t quite have picked that up if you listened to him yesterday. thanks for being here. thanks for having me. megyn: so you soon. when a tourist finished his
that is why mr. zimmerman is still walking free. let s talk about i don t believe in this, i m a gun control guy, but people that walk around with rights to carry concealed weapons, and that i have a stand your ground law, that seems like a potent concoction. it seems to me you are going for the gun. a guy can give you lip, yell at you, threaten you, and your thought you can just gun them down, is that true? and that s exactly the problem. this happened in orlando. if a tourist is at a gas station, and i go up and say hey, you cut me off to the light. when that tourist steps to me, i can prevail of the law, and shoot the tourist dead in the state of florida. that s totally untrue. first of all, you have to be threatened. you can t just go up to somebody pumping their gas and say i don t like you i m going to shoot you. that s obviously a criminal act with criminal intent. it s been used in florida in that mr. gottlieb, it has been used that way. then it should be prosec
presumption to get away from the courts. under what we talked about before, if you have a self-defense claim, at least that went to a jury and a jury can look at a totality of a situation. under this it s a nonrebuttable presumption that you had the ability to stand your ground. you don t even get to a jury. you don t look at the facts and that s why mr. zimmerman is still walking free, eager to kill again. senator? yes. standard of reason, i m pretty much a gun control guy. people walk around with rights to carry concealed weapons and they have this stand your ground law. it seems to me that s a pretty potent concoction. if you re carrying a gun that s concealed and you have the right to take on anybody you believe threatens your life, it seems to me you re going for that gun. the guy can walk up to you, give you some lip, yell at you, be threatening to you, your thought you can just gun him down. is that true in the law? that s exactly the problem.
i was in the house in 2005 and argued this point when i voted against this bill. he can use it because it doesn t say that you can t be the pursuer. this law has been used by criminals that take themselves to the fight, and once they get there, use this nonrebuttable presumption to get away from the courts. under what we talked about before, if you have a self-defense claim, at least that went to a jury and the jury can look at a totally of the situation. under this, it s a not rebuttable presumption that you have the ability to stand your ground. so you don t even get to a jury or look at the facts. that is why mr. zimmerman is still walking free. let s talk about i don t believe in this, i m a gun control guy, but people that walk around with rights to carry concealed weapons, and that i have a stand your ground law, that seems like a potent c
without question the health care bill ramped it up a little bit. i ve been hollereded at and screamed at and called a whole lot of nasty names. and we had to walk through a gauntlet all of us walking through from our offices to the capitol to vote on it. that s okay. that s freedom of speech. you re allowed to codo that. but you can t and you should not be able to put a cross hair on my district and you should not be able to pull a bull eye s or me or any other member of congress or staff or our fa families. are you a gun control guy, are you basically on that side of the argument like carolyn maloney? yes, i believe there should be some gun control and i believe without question there she elimination of the clip. i misspoke, it s carolyn mccarthy. let me ask you about this threat, though. under the constitution, it does