plus all the file folders and the briefcases all full of documents. among materials that michael cohen is said to have handed over to the intelligence committee today were additional documents about the preparation of his previous testimony to congress, for which he has now pled guilty to lying about certain aspects of trump organization s secret efforts during the campaign to build a big, rich moscow real estate project with help from the russian government and at least one sanctioned russian bank. think about those lies, why did cohen lie that way to congress the first time he testified before them? there s no reason those lies about the trump tower moscow project would have benefitted michael cohen in any way himself. the lies that he told in that testimony, which, again, he s pled guilty for. those lies appear to have been designed not to help himself at all, but instead to offer political cover to president trump. according to reports from emily jane fox at vanity fair and cnn a
cohen any longer but if we are his testimony should be released. the circus you saw on wednesday essentially is what we did behind closed doors, we had john ratcliffe, a congressman from texas, who took up most of our time and went through point by point through the dossier to insure that cohen s testimony was still the same from a year and a half ago when he first testified. it was, yes. other than the places that he lied which he has already pled guilty for. sandra: will we see the written testimony? well, we should see it immediately. this guy doesn t have anything that s classified. i can t control that any longer. but right now it s being hid behind closed doors and we ll interview him again this week. sandra: want to get more on that in a second. as far as the mueller report are you suggesting you have some sort of information that that will not be released this week? i just don t know. i think it s hard to believe if
he s the most truthful and upright person ever. but then they very definitively make clear that michael cohen was directed by trump to commit these crimes, crimes by the way that cohen pled guilty for. he was charged and pled guilty for. and they also have citations in there that make it clear that the probation department, a totally separate arm of the government, also came to the same conclusion. so that s big news. it doesn t mean that they could necessarily prove it beyond a reasonable doubt at trial. but what it does mean is that is where the evidence points to. that is their conclusion. and that is not mueller. that is the trump justice department making that conclusion. okay. so you re a federal prosecutor. we have the southern district of new york implicating the president of a crime. what do they do about it because they answer, as you said, to the trump justice department, to the attorney general.
michael cohen, make it crystal clear that they do not necessarily trust him or think he s the most truthful and upright person ever. but then they very definitively make clear that michael cohen was directed by trump to commit these crimes, crimes by the way that cohen pled guilty for. he was charged and pled guilty for. and they also have citations in there that make it clear that the probation department, a totally separate arm of the government, also came to the same conclusion. so that s big news. it doesn t mean that they could necessarily prove it beyond a reasonable doubt at trial. but what it does mean is that is where the evidence points to. that is their conclusion. and that is not mueller. that is the trump justice department making that conclusion. okay. so you re a federal prosecutor. we have the southern district of new york implicating the president of a crime. what do they do about it because