for five years, i have a slightly different take on the leadership there. and i think that those row homes are empty, but i think they re empty for a reason. the row homes are not empty for no reason. i think there s an economic reason behind it. i think there is the will of the politicians is to built a tax base there, and i think that there has been a slow gentrifycation, and maybe sometimes not so low of these communities where marginalized citizens live. and i think that you know, i m not i have to refrain from making, you know, direct statements around, direct accusations, but those on the ground, who work with that population knows that the will of the leadership there isn t necessarily to support thriving communities. we know that leadership there tends to cater to business.
up. and when i say, the system, i mean on a state level, i mean on a national level. i don t really think it s set up to benefit the people in a way that maximizes what we can do as a people. i m sure you ve been to baltimore. these are row homes, blocks of abandoned row homes for no reason, that have been there for decades. it s hard the to grow happy and healthy in a situation like that. people aren t heating or eating well, and this is the life they re expecting. like i said, i was just down there and interviewing people, left and right, who grew up, who grow up with police violence. and this is normal to them. they don t expect anything else. they just don t want to be killed for it. that s it. they expect to be beaten by the police. that s the normal relationship. and we know this, but it hasn t changed. sonia, your views? yeah, i mean, i agree with everything that he says, but having lived in baltimore and worked in baltimore, both with the wire and with the nonprofit they
along to go long rather than push? it s both. it s both. i don t think the system is set up. and when i say the system i mean on a state level, i mean on a national level. i don t really think it s set up to benefit the people in a way that maximizes what we can do as a people. i m sure you ve been to baltimore. these are row homes, blocks of abandoned row homes for no reason, that have been there for decades. it s hard the to grow happy and healthy in a situation like that. people aren t heating or eating well and this is the life they re expecting. like i said, i was just down there and interviewing people left and right, who grew up, who grow up with police violence. and this is normal to them. they don t expect anything else. they just don t want to be killed for it. that s it. they expect to be beaten by the police. that s the normal relationship. and we know this but it hasn t changed. sonia your views? yeah, i mean i agree with everything that he says but
having lived in baltimore and worked in baltimore, both with the wire and with the nonprofit they started and led for five years, i have a slightly different take on the leadership there. and i think that those row homes are empty, but i think they re empty for a reason. the row homes are not empty for no reason. i think there s an economic reason behind it. i think there is the will of the politicians is to built a tax base there, and i think that there has been a slow gentrify gentrifycation, and maybe sometimes not so low of these communities where marginalized citizens live. and i think that you know i m not i have to refrain from making you know, direct statements around direct accusations, but those on the ground, who work with that population knows that the will of the leadership there isn t
the firefighters as they tried to fight the fires that these vandals set. they were burning homes. homes. in row homes that are connected to one another. i mean this could have gone so very wrong. and the question is whether this really could ever be accepted as the new standard when we have protests in a city. well i think there s two ways to look at this megyn. first of all, i have to say this is a shocking contrast to the way in which coverage happened of the of the uprisings in ferguson. as you may recall, we didn t see the mayor of ferguson until about a month after the first protest happened. so i m happy that we re focused on a local leadership and what they should or shouldn t do. we really won t know. we don t know what would have happened if it had gone another way, if there had been a more aggressive police engagement. what i do know megyn, what i find a little bit disturbing is the time that we re spending focused on this not to say it s not an important issue, property