in the video looks like sheer chaos. hard to tell what is happening sometimes to a seasoned proit looks different. glad to be joined by former fbi assistant director and former navy seal, former coordinator for the hostage working group at the u.s. embassy in baghdad and vice president of grom technologies. you spent years working on drug cartel cases. when you see this raid, what do you make of it and the importance he is back in custody and facing extradition? well, yeah, sure, one thing is for clear, they were trained by u.s. special forces. they were moving well. they were very sound tactically. you know, what we re looking at here is a mass murderer and i think a lot of people that gets lost when you see actors like sean penn sort of becoming cartel groupies. he killed thousands of people. we re not looking at a lovable
he went down there. the marines found it. that tunnel led to a sewer system. they chased him through the sewer system but he was able to get out, get to a vehicle and drive off. he was captured a short time later so in the end, that mission was successful. as we said, he s awaiting extradition. thanks very much. raids like the one we just saw in the video looks like sheer chaos. hard to tell what is happening sometimes. to a seasoned pro, it looks different. glad to be joined by former fbi assistant director and former navy seal, former coordinator for the hostage working group at the u.s. embassy in baghdad and vice president of grom technologies. you spent years working on drug cartel cases. when you see this raid, what do you make of it and the importance he is back in custody and facing extradition? well, yeah, sure, one thing is for clear, they were trained by u.s. special forces. they were moving well. they were very sound tactically. you know, what we re looking at here is a
see the pops of light coming from the front of the cafe. and then more hostages then ran up from the building and the police, again, open fire inside. courtney in sydney, thank you very much for that. here with us at the table is michael kay, a retired lieutenant colonel in the british royal air force and former adviser to uk defense, and joining us jim cavanaugh, a retired atf special agent in charge and former hostage negotiator and navy s.e.a.l. commander dan o shea who ran the hostage working group in iraq and is now vp for kidnap and ransom at grom technologies. jim, let me start with you, tktically when the police there encountered this situation where you have a coffee shop where there are several folks there being held hostage by a gunman who you don t know what they re going to do when he moves in,