Thank you very much. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions Copyright National cable satellite corp. 2013] immigration policy with rahm emanuel and americans for tax reform, Grover Norquist. Then, washington journal. Next, a conversation on immigration policy between chicago mayor rahm emanuel and americans for tax reform president Grover Norquist. They sat down yesterday. This is just under one hour. [applause] thank you for being here. I have a privilege to engage in conversation with two people that are extensively to of ostensibly two of the most powerful political leaders. It is slightly an out of body experience. I did not know whether to sit here and have grover and rahm right next to each other. Rahm, former white house chief of staff, three term member of congress, and now mayor of chicago. We do not do advocacy, but if you look at cities and their mayors and what kind of aims the chief executive kinds of things the chief executive of the city does w
I served might not think it has a problem or may not think it needs a solution or wants to or does not want to internationalize a solution. We are an organization based on membership. There is a sovereignty reality we have to accept as a member statebased organization. What do you try to do . You try to find mediators intermediaries that have legitimacy on their own. You might send out somebody who you knew was close to certain government leaders from another country who could talk quietly behind closed doors without a big deal. Graduatere is a u. N. Resident coordinator on the ground that could target an entry point. You always have to be looking at this. One of the reasons i want to make sure we have brought a financial backing for broad financial backing for mediation tools is so people can say if this many countries of this many persuasions are behind using the mediation tools, it must not be a western imperialist agenda, and we have no agenda other than trying to address a conflic
Without having forces on the ground to separate the antagonist, what we try to do is use the voice the u. N. Has to raise aware ps of this and to have discussions with those countries who have influence inside syria. Publicly we talk about this to bring attention to the issue, privately we are talking to the countries in touch with fighters on either side to try to build some humanitarian space. Most of these issues you are raising, they are a way solved in the geneva convention. Its a question of having it respected. One of the sad things about being a diplomat in our areas in these times is the inability to have new International Norms or obligations. I dont think the geneva convention, i dont think we could have today negotiated the geneva convention. So we are stuck in a situation where we really have to look after the heritage that we have from previous generations. They are not bad at all. And they do a pretty good job of disemanating it. But this should be a job of all of us. If
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