the condition. only in obamacare is defunded. now the white house of course threatening a veto as the bill is winning praise from senators marco rubio of florida, ted cruz of texas, mike lee of utah. okay, so what happens next after it passes the house? is at that moment, once the house passes this, the only people who can produce a government shutdown at that point, are harry reid and the senate democrats and the president of the united states. if they are willing to say to the american people, look, because you want to defund obamacare, even though you re willing to fund everything else in government, we re going to shut doesn t government? jon: chief congressional cannot mike emanuel standing by live on capitol hill. mike, there appears to be some friction on the republican side about how far to take this fight. reporter: that s right, gregg. house conservatives who pushed leaders to defund obamacare to fight that cause are wonder if
these things happened. gregg: yeah. george bush cooperated with the valerie plame investigation. it was a very strange thing that admiral mullen would not address at beginning darrell issa s and representative mica s questions, why is it that the congress of all institutions can t have access to the same witnesses that the arb did? if there is nothing to hide, why can t congress actually interview fact witnesses? gregg: jonah goldberg, thanks for being with us. good toe zoo you. great to be here. thank you. jenna: we ll run to capitol hill. fox news alert. congressman boehner there speaking about the republicans, their plan about whether or not they re going to defund obamacare. a vote for a continuing resolution. what does that mean about a government shutdown? big questions. speaker boehner says he does not want to shut down the government. he will take a question here. let s listen in. are you convinced ted kruses, and mike lees, are up for the battle next door. i will not s
portray the accomplices as the real criminals here, she was an innocent pawn. what about the factor, rebecca, of sympathy for this young woman? i think there s going to be a lot of sympathy for her. first of all, she didn t pull the trigger. there were two other people allegedly at the scene with the victim. again, the defense is saying there was a fourth person involved that the police never even charged, so that also can go to reasonable doubt with the jury and the sympathy factor of why did you charge this girl who has tourette s and diminished iq, diminished mental capacity when she didn t pull the trigger? and they are going to try to withdraw and try to have those admissions supposedly they re admissions we haven t seen them yet what they fully are. we don t know. there s going to be a lot of arguing in that courtroom whether or not, you know, what she has said were full admissions and whether she can even understand what she said. gregg: rebecca, tom, good to see you both.
one benghazi survivor is, was seriously injured in the second attack and is still, is still in the hospital. the other four have resumed duties around the world. jenna: victoria tensing, is the attorney representing benghazi whistle-blower gregory hicks. victoria, nice too have you on the program. good to be here, jenna. jenna: how is mr. hicks? where is he? he is still at the state department. that s, that is all i m going to say. we re working on getting him to be in the right place. we re working on that. jenna: what is communication between him and some survivors in benghazi, the folks he worked with on the ground? well nobody can really talk to the survivors. they re keeping them at some other place. but i d like to comment a little bit, because earlier in the show i think gregg asked why, why are there so many unanswered questions? let me tell you why. the format of the usual
talked to her. they want to say there was absolutely no way the military could get to benghazi in time. gregg: right. at the same time they don t want to address the fact that it is an outrage that the military wasn t ready to get there in time. it was 9/11. gregg: the deputy chief of the mission, gregory hicks, said he believes they could have been saved in the military had acted in a rescue session. 700 former special ops wrote a letter that basically said the same thing. we interviewed experts in that field, who said, yes, this attack went on for so many hours. it was easily possible to do a flyover and an attempt at a rescue or at least take out the enemy. so, yet, they just dismissed this, jonah? yeah. they were dismissive of the very idea. admiral mullen simply said, i looked at everything. there was no way to get assets there in time. and so my problem with that is twofold. one is, if there was no way to get any assets to the middle east, right we re talking about