president trump has continued ol that path, it may be even more aggressively because now he s throwing out people with traffic tickets. but the idea is, you shouldn t demonize all immigrants or even all illegal immigrants because the statistics that greg and i have argued over show they have a lower rate of criminal behavior than people who are here as native citizens. greg: they are competing statistics, juan. juan: we have argued this. greg: state and local have higher compared to overall publishing, but when you look at other states, is lower. juan: a conservative group says that s wrong. greg: because there are competing statistics, don t look at them and just look at the problem of illegal immigration. kimberly: exactly. greg: they look at illegal immigration is a separate issue. juan: okay, so let s look at it you illegal immigration and remember. president bush tried to gett something done. guess what, the talk radio host on the right said no. president obama tri
what cnn did, which is bigger than all of this, when they chased a narrative instead of the facts. they couldn t find the facts. so they ran with the story. kimberly: right. greg: i get it. they did it for ratings. trump delivers ratings. it s why all the networks are going up. but the interesting thing about fox news, we don t chase ratings, trump just brings them. if you just cover the news, if you just cover what donald trump is doing, your ratings will be fine. you don t have to create a story that doesn t exist. kimberly: so, that s not a mistake.e.th that is willful and intentional choice to push a story and a narrative regardless if there are facts to support it, those are fire rebel offenses. i m agreeing with you. i m saying this is not a mistake. a mistake would say that by accident i took a bite of jesse s sandwich because i thought it was mine. juan: nobody says i m going to do something to get fired.
concert in virginia. art great place, by the way. we were out in the open. beautiful night. so many fans of the five, i have to say thank you. and lionel richie as a fan. he watches the five. we got to hang out with him backstage. here he is with my wife and friends. big conservative armstrong williams. he played every one of his many hits. he had us dancing on the ceiling all night long. he is amazing. i left him on pandora. next, greg. my podcast the original buffy the vampire slayer. up there right now. let s roll this really quick. disgusting news, can you believe joe scarborough produced the song? you want me to start talking? this is so bad, i m going to stop it right now. don t ever listen. go ahead fast.
it right, the audience has the opportunity to turn the channel or not read.d you have been elected to serve for four years at least. there s no option other than that. we re just asking questions. you are here to provide the answers.er and what you just did is inflammatory to people all over the country who look at it and say, once again, the president s right and everybody else out here is fake media. ot everybody in this room is only trying to do their job. greg: es. of course, when someone in the media does this, then the rest of the media falls in love. drool away chris matthews. i was very impressed by that. what got you. what made you do that today? you find it, because you turn that service to the american people, people paid by american taxpayers to give us answers to questions., that s what everything is supposed to be. it s not supposed to be a p.r. campaign of trusting everyone who disagrees with the president. greg: get a room.
week i listened to a podcast at the new york times does, and they interviewed one of the fathers whose son had been shot in the face by an illegal immigrant who should have been deported, and his son died. he met president trump, and it meant so much to him to have somebody listen to him. the reporter then asked, why did you choose this issue to work on? why not gun control? and i thought, that s the wrong question. kimberly: oh. dana: you can deport people faster than you can get done regulation done. jesse: common sense legislation like this. the democrats say they are compassionate people, but i don t see a lot of that compassion when it comes to victims of illegal alien crime. greg: go back to what dana just mentioned about this podcast question that was asked. therein lies the lesson. the lesson is, there are some victims that are more appealing than others. jesse: there is a victim hierarchy. greg: if you are a victim of gun violence pure and simple,