to keep the government up and running let s stay till december. we have it at least until december. we have once again fighting on capitol hill on this will likely take us to the brink. i know that s shocking. we ll probably get down to the final vote at final hour. welcome on monday morning. to a brand new america s newsroom. i m martha maccallum, i m bill hemmer. one. main sticking points, $3.7 billion for people marks the federal emergency management agency running dry on disaster aid. as of now the government could run out of money by friday. come up with a proposal of your own that reduces the effect of additional spending. we can t borrow money every time something bad goes wrong in america. we agreed to their number on fema. do they want the government to shut down. this they want fema to close and fema will close. they have money to go through monday or tuesday if we re fortunate. bill: so threats of the real deal.
making payments that shouldn t be made and would never be made by another organization. bill: who s worse, tom? med cay, medicare,o medicaid, medicare, social security does an interesting job because they have those social security numbers, they know when people are deceased, they send a note to the bank and say cut this off, but apparently they re not talking to the office of personnel management on a regular basis. bill: so social security does a fairer job? but in the age of the internet, there are so many who do not. that s the whole point. bill: there s a bigger issue here, too. the families of the deceased who receive the checks are apparently still cashing it. that s right. bill: and that is fraud, tom. i agree, there s tpra ud on the other side. the people should be prosecuted, the people should get penalized, and perhaps this will stop. there s one story, some gentleman, a someone of son of a deceased retiree had after a million dollars, and he passed away, so they
back. they have something called recovery autocontracting that s supposed to stop it from being wasted in the first place. that s another good investment. but again, this requires a different way of thinking. any business would be much more concerned about this type of wasted money. in the federal government, it s not such a big deal, unfortunately. bill: families and businesses alike. it s not a huge amount of money, given the $14.6 trillion decifit we re running up right now, but it s symptomatic of a bigger issue, and do you think that climate is changing in washington? because in six months, the focus has gone away from spending to how we can trim spending. it s made a big difference. and these problems have been around for a long time. george w. bush signed the first bill: did that do much? it said to the agencies tell us how much is being improperly paid. it took almost ten years to get the bill that said wait a second, the agencies need
mike emanuel live on the hill. mike, any signs of progress on the standoff over the weekend? reporter: bill, not exactly. no apparent signs of progress at this point. the interesting thing democrats and republicans seem cool to the idea spending $3.7 billion for disaster relief to help victims of hurricane irene or the texas wildfires or other disasters as well. what the democrats dispute is the idea of paying for it with green technology money and so, essentially what we ve heard at this point is, senator lindsey graham on fox news sunday says there will not be a government shutdown. take a listen. the government s not going to shut down because most americans want us to deal with disasters in front of us and disasters to come. that s why we re trying to start paying for things we haven t paid for before. the house proposal is reasonable. i would ask harry reid to take it. it does fund disasters. reporter: republicans are saying we can not do business the way we ve done
going to happen. most voters say they d like to see a fix, primarily spending cuts to resolve the deficit. they expect if anything is going to be done it will be mostly hike hikes. if taxes are raised people don t believe it will be used to reduce the deficit. they say it will be spent on new programs. there is a lot of concern. it s a combination of economic concerns and realities along with the lack of faith in the political leadership that is creating the foul mood in the country today. martha: i think you ve touched on something really significant there, scott. you said if taxes are raised people don t buy it, they don t think that that money will then be used to solve the problem. you hear the president about taxing corporate jet owners, and also millionaires, for months and months. then there was bill clinton who said, you can do it but it s in the going to solve the problem. reporter: right, the reality is the american people are much more willing in their political