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Transcripts for CNN Early Start With Christine Romans and Laura Jarrett 20240604 09:16:00

for the russian federation trust, for the international community. he claims the ukrainians to genocide in the donbas region. i think he believes he is winning the war . the austrian chancellor added that he thinks putin believes he knows exactly what s going. on putin worn him in german saying that he thinks the war be better if it ends earlier rather than later. what exactly is the austin chancellor say about concerns that president putin is going to resort to nuclear weapons? well kristen, the nuclear question has been appointed concern for weeks now. but according to chancellor nehammer, he said he can say for sure whether or not putin would resort to using some sort of tactical nuclear weapon if he was backed into a corner. and of course, he also noted

Transcripts for CNN Early Start With Christine Romans and Laura Jarrett 20240604 09:07:00

had done to say that he was successful. what does that look like? we saw when he is pushback from areas in the north that he decided he is going to do what a lot of us thought he would do in the beginning, and that s focus on the donbas region. so that looks like doing what he s doing now, in terms of taking mariupol. mariupol is key. once he gets mariupol, he s going to move on to the greater donbas region, and there is a scenario in which he could look at taking mariupol and donbas and annexing those areas, and at least calling this phase of the war a success. you know at this point putin is very frustrated, he has not been able to say he s had a clear and decisive victory. so, once he gets the donbas region, even if he continues to focus on other areas, we anticipate that we will see some rhetoric, some communication out of russia with vladimir putin claiming success. but shawn, what you are just referring to, russia taking some of those regions in the

Transcripts for CNN Early Start With Christine Romans and Laura Jarrett 20240604 09:18:00

this. war nehammer noted that he couldn t fully understand russians war logic. putin was very concerned about his war and his demands, and separately, he reiterated the claim we ve heard from the kremlin in russia, that he is carrying out this invasion as a result of what they claim to be genocide in the donbas region. clearly stands in contrast to what we re hearing from western leaders and western intelligence. but of course, over the weekend, we heard from ukrainian president vladimir zelenskyy that he expects an intensification of russia s military campaign, military invasion of the donbas, in that eastern part of the ukraine. so clearly, as you said he d rather see this war and sooner rather than later, yes, absolutely. . nadia beshear live in london for. us folks, thank you so much. coming up, a former soviet state, trying to block kremlin propaganda, but not always succeeding. plus, north korea s kim jong-un

Transcripts for CNN Early Start With Christine Romans and Laura Jarrett 20240604 09:09:00

more bloodshed, we ll see more death unfortunately, because i think you basically have two opposing forces, neither of which is willing to give here. sorry to interrupt, but when you say that shot, that s a very ominous thing to say, then the donbas region is going to see things like nothing the ukrainians have seen in the past. six weeks of conflict. i mean, they ve seen a lot already. so, what else are you expecting, and you think they ll see? you know, i think that what will happen here is the ukrainians are coming off a moral victory in regard to the sinking of the mosque. they are buoyed by the fact that united states is sending a new round of weapons, weapons systems they ve never seen before and will really help them in this fight. so i think what we ll see is a situation in which putin will be very clear that if he is not achieving some sort of military victory, it s not clear these

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