of el chapo. abby: exclusive look at catching el chapo. a behind-the-scenes look at the hunt that lasted over three decades in the shocking story of what brought down infamous head of the cartel for good. your to give us more details about this is former dea agent, jack riley. jack, thank you for taking the time. my pleasure. abby: you were close to this case for three decades. to put that into perspective that is a very long time to be following one guy because of the complexity of what he was doing between mexico and the united states. what do you see as the most taxing thing that happened from these cartels can. i think if you look at the way they ve organized themselves over the last 20 years when we first heard of el chapo in the late 80s, early 90s he was a shadowy character and no one had a handle on the cartels themselves. we were entrenched in a battle in columbia against separate cartels and the mexican cartels and not taking shape until el chapo and a number of others
it was the media who dubbed him the night stalker. he was this drifter who had come from arizona and had moved into la and he was involved in hate crimes early on and eventually he started driving freeways and turn off into suburban neighborhoods and climbing into open windows or unlocked doors of homes and attack people in their homes often killing them and raping and doing terrible things. abby: that is absolutely terrifying and the story rocked the entire country but when you talk about california and arizona and the west coast in general not knowing what the skype would do next, what was the mood like back then? sense of unease early on. moving into a sense of terror. the police did not really know his motives and did not know when he would strike next. he would go into neighborhoods where people felt safe. people had their windows unlocked and doors wide open and then neighborhood i grew up and
but were responsible for the homicides they are no doubt and i m not sure they will ever be salt. abby: i want to mention the boston bombing which you brought up. you examine whether or not those could have been prevented. do you believe they could have been? absolutely, 110%. post- 911 we have a wake-up call. when a country, a very sophisticated country, although an adversary by the name of russia hands us the names of terrorists and we fail to actually expose and do everything we can to make sure they don t act upon their ideology is not only a mistake but a tragedy in the boston marathon was exactly that. there was not just one opportunity but there were two opportunities in the failure for
produced by different victims we noticed there were different information where there was no one or two that were exactly the same with this guy could ve been a caucasian or hispanic or 5 8 or 6 2 no one knew for sure. they were just trying to follow every lead and not to miss anything. abby: welcome back to fox nation s american justice. thank you for joining us. we gave you the first look at the new show coming to fox nation this month following the investigation into one of the world s most twisted and feared serial killers, richard ramirez. i know how this infamous murderer became known as the night stalker and left the new york county people too scared to leave their doors and i could alan, thank you for taking the time and we appreciate it. thank you for having me. abby: can you give me background into richard ramirez? who was he and how did he eventually become dubbed the night stalker.
talk about your involvement in this case. this is my pleasure. thank you for what you do. abby: fox nation american justice will be back with even more exclusive content right here after this. plaque psoriasis can be relentless.