it s true, there is going to be 400 more drafts between that, what you heard and what is going to the public. what i heard is still awesome. thank you very, very much. thank you for joining us this hour. happy to have you here. once upon a time, not all that long ago in the grand scheme of things, once upon a time the biggest celebrities in america were pilots. do you know how time magazine has person of the year, east we man of the year. time magazine invented that whole idea because of a pilot. they figured they needed to do something because in 1927, the pilot charles lindbergh became the first person to fly nonstop solo across the atlantic ocean. he became the biggest celebrity in the world for doing that. there were parades held for him and international prizes, all kinds of honors. he instantly became the most famous man in the world when he did that in 1927. that is where time got the whole man of the year thing in the first place. they invented it specifically f
actually invented that whole idea because of a pilot. they figure they need to do something, because in 1927 the pilot charles under very became the first person to fly nonstop solo across the atlantic ocean. he became the biggest celebrity in the world for doing that. there were parades held for him and international prizes, all kinds of honors. he instantly became the most famous man in the world when he did that in 1927. that is where time got the whole man of the year thing in the first place. they invented it specifically for him. amelia ehrhardt was the first woman to fly across the atlantic, and the first solo pilot to fly between hawaii and california. amelia airport is remembered mostly for going missing on and around the world flight in 1937. she really was a household name in the united states. she was a huge star. lindberg and her were not the only ones. the between the first and second world war, flying was a huge deal to americans. it was a nationwide craze. pil
capitol military formation. one side, they did split up into two teams, fanning out to go on down individual lawmakers. and after january 6th, the group s leader did definitely keep buying weapons, and messaging fellow oath keepers about continuing to block president biden from taking office. none of that is really in dispute in this trial. new york times reporter alan foyer, was in the courthouse as the sedition trial kicked off today, he put it this way. he said, quote, because of the government s wealth of evidence, the trial is less likely to focus on disputes over what the group did in the days and weeks leading up to january six, as it is to hinge on the question of why they did it. joining us now is allen foyer, who s covering the trial for new york times. appreciate you being here, thanks for ten. thanks for having me, rachel, . can you spend that last point, that the disputed in the courtroom is gonna be less about what they, did and more about why they didn t. so it s g
the actual sedition trial for january 6th would be starting on the day of the podcast being announced. that s what happened today, here we are. today, members of the oath keepers, a pro trump paramilitary group, the oath keepers, they went on trial as of today. in federal court, on charges of seditious conspiracy. that is the largest edition trial since the great sedition trial 1944. there are facing charges that they conspired to use force to stop the peaceful transferal of power to a new president and overthrow the u.s. government. these are the most serious charges brought against any of the january 6th defendants. if convicted of these charges, these guys are looking at 20-year prison sentences. but i have to tell you, sedition charges are really, really hard to prove. getting a sedition conviction, bringing sedition charges is very rare, getting a conviction on sedition charges is a very, very difficult. it is true, not only because
it s expected to go on all month and probably into next month as well, a second round of oath keepers defendants is gonna go on trial on similar charges after this. the leader of the oath keepers, a man name stewart rhodes, who is one of the five defendants on trial today. he is a former ron paul staffer, he worked for the father of republican senator rand paul, when is that ron paul was a republican congressman from texas. it seems to me that that doesn t come up nearly enough when covering this historic trial. we re just whether the democrats or the republicans will have control of congress, and the senate. the new york times reporting today that that if the republicans to take over the house, at least eight congressional committees are due to be chaired by members of congress who voted to not certify the election results, voted to overturn the election