i was not into my adulthoo yet. so, you don t you just listen. and that was the moment. that was the moment, where, fo me, all reasonable doubt fle out the window, you know because there was no - there was no agnew trial, right? there was the question of, wha did he do? my sense of it, that i picke up in that room that night, wa what the prosecutors were on to, what they had, was the tip o an un-norma s cash iceberg just a gigantic amount of good guy agnew stuff that they neve even found out about they put together a 40 coun felony indictment and agains him. they had a lot even when we were doing th research for bateman they were like, oh, yeah there was a lot.
soundbite we played tonight, where agnew walks out of the courthouse, and says t reporters, gentlemen, you sa me - you could see guys standin around him who appear to b secret service, because they r not looking at the cameras they re looking around, appear to be looking at rooftops an stuff. i can t say they are for sure, but they appear to be secret service with him at that time. the way it was choreographed a the start of that process, h walked in, they prepared his resignation. when he resigned as vice president, you resigned to the secretary of state for some reason, that s th process. they sent his resignatio letter to henry kissinger, and they conveyed it to him, the waited in the office, they confirmed it was conveyed, tha he was no longer vice president, and walked into the courtroom, gave his plea, and he walked out. i don t think there wa fingerprint booking, mugshot process, let alone handcuffs now i want to go back an re-read my notes right, well, we ll see ho it works o
one of them said, i kind o think maybe it was the regular process. i m not really sure. the memories just aren t sharp enough to really report on it. but, did you find in you research of all that, from the podcast, whether there was eve a handcuffed moment? it wouldn t have been a handcuffed moment because th way where i was going to say, th soundbite that we play tonight where agnew walks out of the courthouse and says, gentlemen you saw. you can see guys standin around him that appear to be secret service because they ar not looking at the cameras they re looking around vapor to be looking at rooftops, staff. i can t say that they are fo sure they appear to be circui service with them. the way it was choreographed the start of that process, h walked and they had prepared hi resignation. when you resign as vic president, you resigned to the secretary of state, for some reason that is the process. they sent his right assignatio
so, i met at the world series, as can happen, depending on wh you re with, someone i wil call very, very highly placed, at the very top level of wha they used to call organize crime in baltimore and found myself that night at the best italian restaurant in baltimore, whereupon back gu who was incredibly charming an was just kind of rolling along in storytelling, almost in passing, when his name came up he said a couple of times, agnew, great guy, a new. great guy, agnew [laughter] as you know, in your training, growing up, in dealing wit guys highly placed in organize crime, you don t ask questions i was in no position to as questions. i was not in any way a journalist at that point i time
in terms of the stuff that didn t necessarily end up in their, because it was a time you can talk about the stuff but, yeah. they gangster love thank doesn t surprise me. it also makes me desperately long for a time machine to g back there and give you ways t keep that part of th conversation going i have more details for you on this one. no one s listening you know, we have been tryin to pursue our secret service members of agnew s detail. because of this issue of what going to happen tuesday in manhattan, because agnew is th only person, the only person with a secret service detail whoever found himself in the intersection of the criminal justice system this way. so, what we want to know was how about handcuffs. anything like that ever happen the secret service agents we v been able to talk to, they, ar you, know up there in age.