but you ve got an entire staff, the deputy secretary traditionally has done a lot of it the case now and thousands of civil servants who do it. the energy secretary, look at ernie he was the adviser on the iran nuclear talks but his counterpart were managing those negotiations every inch of the way. governor perry has to decide what is his share of the portfolio and what is his deputy and other people are going to handle. part of his appeal to trump in the first place and the people around tmpru is that rick perry said he wanted to dismantle the department. trump s destroyer in these cabinet positions. rick perry is one of the chief among them. you have ray pruitt at the epa and people come into their new jobs and betsy devos to come into the education. this is the real thing of like the dream of 1994 which was