I met Kimberly Alidio in the summer of 2021, as a student in their Kundiman workshop, Documentary Poetics: Archive and Counter-Lyric. During our last session, we had been reflecting on Mei-mei Berssenbrugges interview in Jacket2, in which she talks about poetry becoming entropic, losing energy, and finding new form. My notes from this conversation include: You go where the energy is.