in the hour. but we start with the first public hearing of the january 6th committee. which is set to be a primetime hearing, next thursday. the bipartisan panelists interviewed about 1000 people, and received tens of thousands of pages of documents. they have the attempts by the president and his allies to overturn the election, and the attack on our democracy that culminated in the deadly insurrection. we have talked a lot on the show about how close we actually came to you losing our democracy that day. how the threat to our democracy is not over. but is in fact growing with republican efforts to subvert future elections. the key question is whether this committee, and in their hearings, will be able to breakthrough the noise and get the americans attention. in the watergate scandal, 70% of america reported watching the harry. the january six committee is unlikely to get that many viewers in today s polarizing environment. but can they get americans to pay attention for wh
rhodes, founder of the far-right oath keepers militia is guilty of it. the government laid out evidence of our roads along with other oath keepers coordinated for weeks on what ultimately became a plan to disrupt the peaceful transition of power on january six. to call this conviction a big deal is an understatement, y all this is huge. this is america s first successful seditious conspiracy conviction and nearly 30 years. and the penalty for roads? could be up to two decades in prison. joining me now to discuss are some experts, msnbc contributor charlie savage is here. the washington post bonded for the new york times and author of power wars, relentless rise of presidential authorities and secrecy. i miss nbc legal analyst grant kershner is also here. our former federal prosecutor and has been watching that seditious conspiracy trial like a hawk. he is our expert along with charlie. charlie i will start with you. charlie, speaks of the nature of this historic conviction in my words?
unlikely to get that many viewers in today s polarizing environment. but can they get americans to pay attention for what s at stake here? and to break all of this down, the head of next week s hearings. and grant kershner nbc analyst and [inaudible] . perfect people to have here today, glenn elsewhere with you. what story do democrats need to tell through these primetime hearings? what they need to do is put on a presentation that appeals to everybody a pause the spectrum. not only do you want to try criminal cases, you re gonna put people in a jury box. they re going to range from a high school dropout to scientists. everybody in between. but what we will need to do is put on a common sense, compelling, vivid, presentation. not just to the jury, but to the american people. that really drives home what donald trump and his many criminal associates did. in trying to overturn the