previous leak cases to the extent there s any comparable leaks cases, you re talking about sentences of usually about several years in prison. chelsea manning saying we ll have served seven years so in his mind, this is not letting somebody get away with it. this is letting somebody serve about what you d expect to serve for a leaks case. does he have an argument there? i think the difference in the penalty may reflect the damage done to the national security of our country. i think that s why you have a difference in the penalty range. let me just say, as a general matter, the president of the united states, he does not have to defend this decision under the constitution. the president has unfeddered authority to pardon people, to grant congressmen si for any reon or no reason. i will say as a rule of thumb. if you take an executive action and you have to go out and defend it, not only against republicans, but against democrats for questioning, the reasons for this. then i think you