again, it s a misdemeanor. we are talking about small apotatoes. kimberly: maybe at this event where you said it s warm welcoming, a constituency that would be in favor the president has a reall connection with arizona. the grand canyon h state. he made seven visits there. it was the first big venue with the cheering crowd that helped launch his candidacy for president. and it s true, he only won by 3.5% over hillary clinton but arizonans really do like donald trump. representative franks who hardly endorses a pardon is going to be there. he has a lot of fans and i think this may be the time he pardons arpaio. kimberly: would there be political fallout from that? some have said oh, no, poor joe arpaio. in light, on the aftermath of charlottesville in the racial tensions and what has been