And his supporters wrongfully see persecution here. other see accountability. but my first guest today sees karma. raymond santana, along with korey wise and try and mccrae kevin richardson, and yusef salaam were teenagers when they were charged, tried, and convicted, or beating and raping a woman in central park in 1989 donald trump paid for a full page ads in new york city newspapers. he called for the death penalty to be reinstated in new york. trump wanted these boys killed in 2000 to a convicted rapists and murderers confessed to the central park rape. and the central park five became the exonerated five. but trump has never acknowledged their innocence or apologized a raymond santana, one of the exonerated five is with me now, ramy. good morning to you and thank you for spending a couple of minutes with me. we ve now had about 36 hours since the verdicts were red what now is
Liberalism, not liberalism. ramy, this concept of the quality of democracy is important. i pointed out russia, i pointed out iran, both of them have elections, but there s a quality of democracy problem there in. timothy snyder yale points out that often when countries move away from democracy, and the way that the freedom index shows that the united states has dropped, it s not in a revolution. it s not somebody it s not a coup. it s not somebody overtaking the democratic government, its people actually giving up their rights slowly, often through voting. that s exactly right. i think people tend to conflate just the pure active voting with democracy, and say even though we have in 2024 more people voting that in any other year in the history of the world, as you shawn just pointed out, this is also a year where democracy has declined in quality for the 17th consecutive year. and part of the challenge here is to understand why people seem to be giving up certain rights that they
His comments on the Mideast conflict have been the subject of news reports, but the polarizing coverage has ignored how comics have treated the situation.