unlike osama you have to come out of the cave. when they find out about you then you get whacked. jon: isn t it true that he and osama bin laden crossed swords. he didn t agree with how osama bin laden was running the organization. reporter: we don t know a tremendous amount of the interplay inside there. you have to take some of this with a grain a salt. i don t think his appointment is necessarily a statement of strength on the part of osama bin laden. i think it s a statement of desperation. they are trying to show they are still in the game. this shows again why winning in afghanistan is so important to keep al-qaida out of there, to force the pakistanis to deal with them on that side of the border. finishing the job in iraq and afghanistan is so important. the reason why they went to yemen is because they ve even had trouble operating out of pakistan. they tried to set up a new base operation.