Shes an attorney and former state director for Bernie Sanders in 2016 in washington we have Christopher Barron he is a conservative strategist as well as president of right turn strategies and in strasburg we cross to John Laughlin hes a political scientist and historian as well as lecturer in european history at the University Institute of st pius the 10th in pairs are right across cycles in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate let me go to john in strasburg to give us a little panoramic view right here. I was thinking a couple of days ago looking at the surge or apparent surge or invented surge of people who judge and i kept thinking while. America now has its own version of the menu well mccrone ok a poster child for power for the status quo and almost no one likes them but you can do anything about it ok thats exactly what were facing here and thats i also said in my introduction you know were told so much. About what this candidate stands for