Neighbors where one had painted a sunflower on her garage and the other neighbor didnt like it. And the officer clearly made the distinction it was put on with permission. So, permission is considered in the decisionmaking process, but its not an overall factor. So, if the by law officer had determined that that was a nuisance, the Property Owner would have been forced to remove it, but in this situation made a determination that it wasnt a nuisance, that it was put on, it wasnt detracting from the neighborhood and it was allowed to remain. It gives the officers a lot of leeway. We are looking at what toronto is doing right now in terms of possibly coming up with a way of retroactively approving pieces of art that are on murals that at this point in time our by laws seem to be holding. If i could just add to that, actually, because our program is similar [speaker not understood] when we started researching. This idea of graffititype murals that have permission like you were showing in
So, you really act as a good communicator and facilitator in the program from a Law Enforcement background. And the grant we get through public works really allows us to run effectively. Great, thank you. [speaker not understood]. Let me come on over here. Whats your question . Okay. [speaker not understood]. Ive gotten three years of knowledge [speaker not understood]. My question is this. How am i going to get the police department, how am i going to get city council theyre partially on board, but some of our people in public works are here today. How can i convey to them that im not a nut everybody here thinks im a nut because [speaker not understood]. How did they really take this seriously and realize that graffiti is a crime and it requires money and it requires attention from the officials, not just from covering graffiti . Is there an answer . Can you give me some sort of whats a good direction . [speaker not understood]. [speaker not understood]. Basically the task force, they
Almost identical to what tyra is talking about doing here. Its similar to public art murals, but similar in scope. When we were doing our murals, almost 200 of them, there was no permit in place, but there was a selection process. And, so, if that was the heritage property, that had to go to heritage. And they had to decide whether or not that building had been painted and if a mural would go there. If so, did it work with the heritage esthetics, et cetera, et cetera. It also goes to the Community Group or the Business Group in that area. It goes through the Graffiti Department primarily because we do engage past graffiti vandals who are now legal and are doing artwork. So, in vancouver there is no active graffiti tag names, crew name used in our murals. Weve come up with a fairly loose guideline which is being defined by a new graffiti programmer, Program Coordinator david over there. And theyre coming up with some parameters so that the city can work with people that come from graffi
When we were doing our murals, almost 200 of them, there was no permit in place, but there was a selection process. And, so, if that was the heritage property, that had to go to heritage. And they had to decide whether or not that building had been painted and if a mural would go there. If so, did it work with the heritage esthetics, et cetera, et cetera. It also goes to the Community Group or the Business Group in that area. It goes through the Graffiti Department primarily because we do engage past graffiti vandals who are now legal and are doing artwork. So, in vancouver there is no active graffiti tag names, crew name used in our murals. Weve come up with a fairly loose guideline which is being defined by a new graffiti programmer, Program Coordinator david over there. And theyre coming up with some parameters so that the city can work with people that come from graffiti so that there is still some incentive for them to become artistic, to go into doing murals and other art. Use th
Have this piece of graffiti on our property and i dont feel its a nuisance and im not going to remove it . And we havent had any problems actually whatsoever with our graffiti by law being challenged. How the by law works is that our by law officers, any graffiti that comes up is at their discretion. So, whether they determine what is on the property is a nuisance and it allows us to keep our Mural Programs running. It allows us to look at individual situations. Early on we had one situation where there was a Property Owner dispute between two neighbors where one had painted a sunflower on her garage and the other neighbor didnt like it. And the officer clearly made the distinction it was put on with permission. So, permission is considered in the decisionmaking process, but its not an overall factor. So, if the by law officer had determined that that was a nuisance, the Property Owner would have been forced to remove it, but in this situation made a determination that it wasnt a nuisa