are not going to be interested in seeing a 70% tax bracket. they re not going to be interested, especially if they re in a union and they ve worked hard to negotiate their health care benefits, they re not going to want to see that given up. i mean, you just have to recognize that, you know, while while it s great if we had a blank slate and we could start from scratch, but we are not there, and so i think we have to recognize where people are at and know that in order to move the ball, continue to move the ball down, it s not going to be overnight. unless we get a wild election where we elect all democrats and we can do whatever we want, but something tells me the senate map isn t inclined to see that result. so, cenk, a fan of yours called into the radio show the other day. i m like in love with sirius radio. it has been so good for my journalism. cillizza helps me out as a host. jennifer granholm came in with governor whitman of new jersey
you take out double negatives, it should say i am saying it s true. so let s pretend. let s say it may be true. when i was in the white house, i was not aware of president obama s team asking somebody to nominate him for the nobel peace prize. it is entirely possible. it wouldn t surprise me. it certainly doesn t surprise me for president trump to do that. in his world, i think he does think he deserves it. and i think that he wants an award that was also bestowed on president obama. governor whitman, you have first-hand experience dealing with president trump from your days in new jersey when you had those casinos in atlantic city. he has brought this up himself, the idea of barack obama getting that nobel prize in 2009 a couple months into his presidency. what s your read on him when it comes to that being a potential motivating factor? i think it s a very real motivating factor. he has got to do everything bigger and better than everybody