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programs but joe manchin is the progressives, excuse me, are saying keep all the programs, just fund them for a shorter period of time and hope that they attract american support and so, therefore, they become a permanent part of the landscape. and then you ve got joe manchin saying, no, cut some of the programs, eliminate some of them and means test others and i should tell you that on abc this morning, treasury secretary yell yellen she thinks some benefits should be means tested, don t give it to people who can afford it without the government subsidy. where are you on the question, fund all of them for a shorter period of time or target fewer programs and means test them. i think we should move forward, chris, with programs that will have a real impact on people s lives. and i ll give you two quick examples. the child tax credit is already having an enormous impact on child poverty.

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