hard to fault attorney general holder for that reason because it s the policy and it s the law. they tell him what to do. but highlights again how silly this whole sequester he debate is. rather than taking the easy stuff, stuff you can cut and no one is going to feel it and say you know what, maybe we ll make the guy drive out to the air force base. greta: 20 minutes out to andrews. a couple minutes more rather than do easy things like that, we ll do senseless government expenditures. greta: and i guess that s sort of arose when 9/11 happened we never want to be out of touch with the director of the fbi or attorney general and want them on the fancy planes with great communication system and time has gone by and maybe rethink this and we re not. exactly right. it becomes mindless and became these essentials of personnel that needed to be in touch all the time. no one is saying the attorney general and fbi director can t go on personal trips or go home for the weekend, but
whether we are democrats or republicans. we can t let this die on the vine. the key question is what were they covering up. bill: monica, thank you. martha: $35 billion in taxpayer cash has been funneled into what one senator call a wasteful group much government expenditures, all designed to keep us safe. and are they working? that comes from a new report by senator tom coburn. tell me what you think about this. sent me a tweet @marthamaccallum. bill: your home survives hurricane sandy only to vanish days later. hear from a man who said this happened to his home. i never saw anything like this in my life. when i took my wife down a week later she what is crying her eyes out in the street.
the tax rates. how about bringing spending in line with what it was when bill clinton was president of the united states? the last year of the clinton presidency, government expenditures were 18% of gdp. now over the last four years, they ve averaged about 25%. so idb says adopt the spending levels and restrain the cost, mr. president. not the tax rates. cut the spending, not the gretchen: it s kind of like that duh sound on the simpson show. people know this. people know this is what it s going to come down to yet it s this posturing. now headlines, chaos in cairo. president morsi returning to his palace overnight. he took off amid violent protests between police and protests, 100,000. they re outraged over morsi expanding his powers.
what s going on, he says it worked. why can t he be honest and acknowledge the fact that it failed, not that it worked? wow, john sununu, the sky is falling, the sky is falling and i m chicken little. george that s not you. this is not you to be so negative and pessimistic about america. i have lectured sean has been about this. you have to believe in the country. and the thing to understand is the government is smaller today than when president obama took as. we came in with a difficult time. that s not true. juan, that s not true. it is. first of all, that s in the true. there are more public employees today than when he took office. no. what we have is smaller government. if you are asking about the size of government, government expenditures, the rate of growth in terms of spending is the smallest it s been since going back to juan, juan. juan, that statistic that you and the president tried to pawn
which means we re cutting spending on the poor and the elderly. because romney has said at least for the next ten years he s not going to cut spending on the elderly, we re cutting spending on the poor and lower middle class that benefits from these things. that by the way includes the affordable care act which takes a lot of money from taxes for the rich and moves it into subsidy to help lower income folks get health care. and that s the real point, melissa. i d agree with ezra. and there s another area where government expenditures come from and that s jobs. cutting government often means cutting people s jobs. and what we know is well, government is too big. those government jobs, those good government jobs. we know who has those jobs. they are vastly, not predominantly, for people of color and for women. there are more women and people of color in those positions. talking about teachers, you re talking about a lot of women and often women of color. postal workers, firefig