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do people need to understand, i mean, kamala harris could totally stand on her own laurels. she s so strong, she has an accomplished career. the reality, like you just said, she has to take one for her team, right? she has to go along for the ride, she has the kind of do what the orders are being given to her by president biden. i think, katie, vice president harris, the expectations of vice president harris coming into the world, she is a historic vice president. the first, woman person of color, black women. the expectations they often tell people, they smashed into the reality the vice presidency. the reality that the vice presidency is that you are oftentimes doing work on very consequential issues, but you re not a good vice president if you re running out there and telling the world what you re doing and how you re doing it. it is really there, the vice president is there to be a support system, a sounding board, a governing partner to the president. i do think that vice presid

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