let me remind everyone, the two different comments rudy giuliani has made about michael cohen. listen to this. he doesn t have any incriminating evidence about the president or himself. the man is an honest honorable lawyer. i expected something like this from cohen. he s been lying all week or for two he s been lying for years. there s nobody i know that knows him that hasn t warned me if his back is against the wall, he ll lie like crazy because he s lied all his life. michael cohen cooperating with prosecutors, the issue of credibility immediately jumps out. you re probably going to expect to hear that case made stronger from people like rudy giuliani. how significance does this become? it s everything. what we saw from rudy giuliani is fairly standard stuff. when they re trying to keep the guy in the fold, it s he s a good person, he s not going to turn on us.