counsel. she ll be testifying tomorrow then on thursday, this could be perhaps the biggest testimony of all. and this is from gordon sondland, the president s am bass r dorr to the european union. now sondland previously was supposed to testify last week. the state department and white house blocked his testimony but now under subpoena, he says he will testify and he was the one of those ambassadors who was wrapped up in those text messages that show there was some concern, particularly from the united states top diplomat in ukraine who was a career diplomat that there was some kind of quid pro quo afoot and sondland, a political donor to the president and a business man who was apointed ambassador to the european union, dismissed those concerns. in one of these text messages, as i said on the phone, i think it s crazy to withhold security stance for help with a political campaign. that s bill taylor. sondland replies, bill, i believe you are incorrect about president trump s intention
the president has been crystal clear. no quid quos of any kind. now according to the washington post, sondland will testify it was the president who spoke with him on the phone and told him directly there was no quid pro quos, but get this, sondland will say if he doesn t know if the president uwas telling the n fact, sondland, according to a person familiar with his thinking, told the washington post it was a quid pro quo, but not a corrupt one, so that will certainly be interesting if that s the rationale that sondland gives to house democrats on thursday. yeah, potentially explosive testimony by sondland on thursday. we also know that there has been requests by house democrats made to ambassador bill taylor, who could also have a lot to say. that has not yet been scheduled. jeregjere diamond, thanks very . so if you re like any of us, it s understandable that you ve got a lot of questions about the impeachment battle like what s next for the president and congressional democra
both article two in which the president can receive no money from any government in the united states and article one, the foreign clause, the president is clear violation and what about his kids? gal vanting around the world cutting deals, getting special deals from the chinese government? goes on and on and on. the pot is black. he shouldn t be calling the kettle so. you did just get back from ukraine. i want to ask you about your trip there. one of the people you met on that trip was bill taylor. he s the affair which right now is the top u.s. diplomat in the country. he s also a former ambassador ukraine. now for those who don t know his name, he is absolutely pivotal in this impeachment inquiry. in that he was speaking with the president s point man ukraine include iing the eu ambassador, goren sondland and in a text
message, he wrote are we now saying that security assistance and white house meeting are conditioned on investigations? now those investigations would be those conspiracy theory investigations that the president wanted ukraine to launch into the 2016 election and joe biden. now congressman as you know, ambassador sondland is expected to testify this week and responded back call me. so my question to you is did you speak with bill taylor about his thoughts because in this exchange and in another, he makes it quite clear he felt a quid pro quo is going on. military aid. h 40 $0 million worth in change for investigations. first, we didn t go there to do investigations. we went to see if the ukrainian government had the support they needed to conduct a vicious war against russia that s invaded their country. the morning we visited with the minister of defense, we met
sondland spoke with the president in those five hours and now according to the washington post, he is going to say tomorrow in his testimony that this was the message from president trump, so congressman, do you believe now that sondland is going to be testifying that he is going to turn against the president? well, he s going to tell the truth. he s going to be under oath. he ll know if he lies there are people privy to much of what will be said. much of what those text messages and e-mails as well as the call itself between the president of the united states and the president of ukraine, all of that information is available so yes, i believe sondland is going to make sure that he is accurate and it s very increasingly clear that accuracy is yes, there clearly was an extorres underway between the, that the president was attempting to extort the