a new episode of my podcast about grief and loss called all their eyes came out today. if you point your phone s camera to the qr code you see on the side of the screen, a link will show up on your phone that you can click and listen. last week, i spoke with president biden on the podcast, at the white house, about how he lives with grief. this new episode is called the greatest loss. it s about the pain of losing a baby, which is something we don t talk much about in this society. millions of women, including my mom, had experienced the child loss during pregnancy, or soon after. but their losses compounded by the silence that surrounds it. people don t know what to say, we don t say anything at all. in this episode, i speak with a texas mom named katie tolman who lost her first daughter when she was 23 weeks pregnant. it s extraordinarily powerful and moving interview. i hope you listen. it s available now on a podcast, spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. cnn town