Only do you get great interns and apprentices but you get great hires and people who know your business. We also know that if you start earlier with pathways this is work we are doing at the Aspin Institute in 21 urban, rural and tribal communities, that you also bring in those hard skills. We use the term soft skiills. These are difficult and important skills. You bring those together with support services that you have much Better Outcomes at the end. So i think were getting to a point now where people recognize the imperative. We know more about whats needed. Were moving further and faster and now we are also applying evidence, the type that urban alliance is doing with the urban institute, other programs around the country that we can talk about. So were Getting Better evidence. We can apply it to the programs. We have continuous learning. We are doing this across sector. But one of the things i will say and am so proud we are here at the chamber doing this, it was so wonderful to